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		<title>Frater C.U.G. at 22:48, 26 June 2005</title>
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		<updated>2005-06-26T22:48:21Z</updated>

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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 22:48, 26 June 2005&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot;&gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;No discussion page on Aleister Crowley?  I feel priviledged for starting it then.  First thing is first, I wish to move to change Aleister Crowley&amp;#039;s degrees of Freemasonry to reflect a correct level, as far as I am aware he was a Master Mason (3rd Degree), to have attained 33rd degree in one, possibly two years depending on the gap made available is impossible even if it is based on the Ashka calender of one degree per lunar cycle, which isn&amp;#039;t practised in many places.  Degrees are partaken per years generally.  So it would be impossible for a 33rd Degree to be obtained in the time period alloted.  Does anyone have any input on this?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;No discussion page on Aleister Crowley?  I feel priviledged for starting it then.  First thing is first, I wish to move to change Aleister Crowley&amp;#039;s degrees of Freemasonry to reflect a correct level, as far as I am aware he was a Master Mason (3rd Degree), to have attained 33rd degree in one, possibly two years depending on the gap made available is impossible even if it is based on the Ashka calender of one degree per lunar cycle, which isn&amp;#039;t practised in many places.  Degrees are partaken per years generally.  So it would be impossible for a 33rd Degree to be obtained in the time period alloted.  Does anyone have any input on this?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:Crowley never received any degrees from normal freemasonry. To use their terms all the 33rd’s (He had 3, once in Mexico, once in France, and a last 33rd in England from John Yarker) Crowley received were from irregular Lodges.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:Crowley never received any degrees from &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&quot;&lt;/ins&gt;normal&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&quot; &lt;/ins&gt;freemasonry. To use their terms all the 33rd’s (He had 3, once in Mexico, once in France, and a last 33rd in England from John Yarker) Crowley received were from irregular Lodges.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:The Grand Lodge of England&amp;#039;s refusal to recognize Crowley was one of the reasons he rewrote the O.T.O. 0-III rituals to remove the Masonic connections. [[User:Frater C.U.G.|Frater C.U.G.]] 17:47, 26 Jun 2005 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:The Grand Lodge of England&amp;#039;s refusal to recognize Crowley was one of the reasons he rewrote the O.T.O. 0-III rituals to remove the Masonic connections. [[User:Frater C.U.G.|Frater C.U.G.]] 17:47, 26 Jun 2005 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Frater C.U.G.</name></author>
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		<title>Frater C.U.G. at 22:47, 26 June 2005</title>
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		<updated>2005-06-26T22:47:47Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;No discussion page on Aleister Crowley?  I feel priviledged for starting it then.  First thing is first, I wish to move to change Aleister Crowley&amp;#039;s degrees of Freemasonry to reflect a correct level, as far as I am aware he was a Master Mason (3rd Degree), to have attained 33rd degree in one, possibly two years depending on the gap made available is impossible even if it is based on the Ashka calender of one degree per lunar cycle, which isn&amp;#039;t practised in many places.  Degrees are partaken per years generally.  So it would be impossible for a 33rd Degree to be obtained in the time period alloted.  Does anyone have any input on this?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;No discussion page on Aleister Crowley?  I feel priviledged for starting it then.  First thing is first, I wish to move to change Aleister Crowley&amp;#039;s degrees of Freemasonry to reflect a correct level, as far as I am aware he was a Master Mason (3rd Degree), to have attained 33rd degree in one, possibly two years depending on the gap made available is impossible even if it is based on the Ashka calender of one degree per lunar cycle, which isn&amp;#039;t practised in many places.  Degrees are partaken per years generally.  So it would be impossible for a 33rd Degree to be obtained in the time period alloted.  Does anyone have any input on this?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:Crowley never received any degrees from normal freemasonry. To use their terms all the 33rd’s (He had 3, once in Mexico, once in France, and a last 33rd in England from John Yarker) Crowley received were from irregular Lodges.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:The Grand Lodge of England&#039;s refusal to recognize Crowley was one of the reasons he rewrote the O.T.O. 0-III rituals to remove the Masonic connections. [[User:Frater C.U.G.|Frater C.U.G.]] 17:47, 26 Jun 2005 (CDT)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Frater C.U.G.</name></author>
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		<title>Jachin: Degree&#039;s of Masonry</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Degree&amp;#039;s of Masonry&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;No discussion page on Aleister Crowley?  I feel priviledged for starting it then.  First thing is first, I wish to move to change Aleister Crowley&amp;#039;s degrees of Freemasonry to reflect a correct level, as far as I am aware he was a Master Mason (3rd Degree), to have attained 33rd degree in one, possibly two years depending on the gap made available is impossible even if it is based on the Ashka calender of one degree per lunar cycle, which isn&amp;#039;t practised in many places.  Degrees are partaken per years generally.  So it would be impossible for a 33rd Degree to be obtained in the time period alloted.  Does anyone have any input on this?&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jachin</name></author>
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