Talk:Islamic Godforms - Revision history

Nehustan at 06:28, 31 December 2005

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	I think you will find that the shahadah or declaration in the unity ([Tawheed]) starts 'La Illaha - There is no God', followed by an affirmation of the infinite and absolute, Al Wahid, the unique, 'Il Allah - but (lit.)The God'. It is often said that the name Allah (which is also considered by the deen to be the 'proper' name of God) when viewed in Arabic proceeds from the Alif (1) which is sounded by its vowels, descending from Ain Soph Aur/Al Nur if you will down through the double Lam (30x2) down to the Ha (5), which could be said to encompass the 'kursi' (see ayat Al Kursi 2:255) with the Alif sitting silently beyond the Arsh. As the Quran says Allah is established over his throne. The prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said when asked of the relationship between the Kursi (footstool) and the Arsh (throne) took a ring from his finger and cast it on the ground, whereupon he said if you wish to consider the throne and the footstool then the ring is the footstool, and the edge of the desert the throne.		I think you will find that the shahadah or declaration in the unity ([[Tawheed]]) starts 'La Illaha - There is no God', followed by an affirmation of the infinite and absolute, Al Wahid, the unique, 'Il Allah - but (lit.)The God'. It is often said that the name Allah (which is also considered by the deen to be the 'proper' name of God) when viewed in Arabic proceeds from the Alif (1) which is sounded by its vowels, descending from Ain Soph Aur/Al Nur if you will down through the double Lam (30x2) down to the Ha (5), which could be said to encompass the 'kursi' (see ayat Al Kursi 2:255) with the Alif sitting silently beyond the Arsh. As the Quran says Allah is established over his throne. The prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said when asked of the relationship between the Kursi (footstool) and the Arsh (throne) took a ring from his finger and cast it on the ground, whereupon he said if you wish to consider the throne and the footstool then the ring is the footstool, and the edge of the desert the throne.

	—[[User:Nehustan\|Nehustan]]		—[[User:Nehustan\|Nehustan]]

Nehustan at 06:27, 31 December 2005

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	—[[User:Fr. Zabed\|Fr. Zabed]]		—[[User:Fr. Zabed\|Fr. Zabed]]

	I think you will find that the shahadah or declaration in the unity (Tawheed) starts 'La Illaha - There is no God', followed by an affirmation of the infinite and absolute, Al Wahid, the unique, 'Il Allah - but (lit.)The God'. It is often said that the name Allah (which is also considered by the deen to be the 'proper' name of God) when viewed in Arabic proceeds from the Alif (1) which is sounded by its vowels, descending from Ain Soph Aur/Al Nur if you will down through the double Lam (30x2) down to the Ha (5), which could be said to encompass the 'kursi' (see ayat Al Kursi 2:255) with the Alif sitting silently beyond the Arsh. As the Quran says Allah is established over his throne. The prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said when asked of the relationship between the Kursi (footstool) and the Arsh (throne) took a ring from his finger and cast it on the ground, whereupon he said if you wish to consider the throne and the footstool then the ring is the footstool, and the edge of the desert the throne.		I think you will find that the shahadah or declaration in the unity ([Tawheed]) starts 'La Illaha - There is no God', followed by an affirmation of the infinite and absolute, Al Wahid, the unique, 'Il Allah - but (lit.)The God'. It is often said that the name Allah (which is also considered by the deen to be the 'proper' name of God) when viewed in Arabic proceeds from the Alif (1) which is sounded by its vowels, descending from Ain Soph Aur/Al Nur if you will down through the double Lam (30x2) down to the Ha (5), which could be said to encompass the 'kursi' (see ayat Al Kursi 2:255) with the Alif sitting silently beyond the Arsh. As the Quran says Allah is established over his throne. The prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said when asked of the relationship between the Kursi (footstool) and the Arsh (throne) took a ring from his finger and cast it on the ground, whereupon he said if you wish to consider the throne and the footstool then the ring is the footstool, and the edge of the desert the throne.

	—[[User:Nehustan\|Nehustan]]		—[[User:Nehustan\|Nehustan]]

Nehustan at 11:46, 12 July 2005

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	I think you will find that the shahadah or declaration in the unity (Tawheed) starts 'La Illaha - There is no God', followed by an affirmation of the infinite and absolute, Al Wahid, the unique, 'Il Allah - but (lit.)The God'. It is often said that the name Allah (which is also considered by the deen to be the 'proper' name of God when viewed in Arabic proceeds from the Alif (1) which is sounded by its vowels, descending from Ain Soph Aur/Al Nur if you will down through the double Lam (30x2) down to the Ha (5), which could be said to encompass the 'kursi' (see ayat Al Kursi 2:255) with the Alif sitting silently beyond the Arsh. As the Quran says Allah is established over his throne. The prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said when asked of the relationship between the Kursi (footstool) and the Arsh (throne) took a ring from his finger and cast it on the ground, whereupon he said if you wish to consider the throne and the footstool then the ring is the footstool, and the edge of the desert the throne.		I think you will find that the shahadah or declaration in the unity (Tawheed) starts 'La Illaha - There is no God', followed by an affirmation of the infinite and absolute, Al Wahid, the unique, 'Il Allah - but (lit.)The God'. It is often said that the name Allah (which is also considered by the deen to be the 'proper' name of God) when viewed in Arabic proceeds from the Alif (1) which is sounded by its vowels, descending from Ain Soph Aur/Al Nur if you will down through the double Lam (30x2) down to the Ha (5), which could be said to encompass the 'kursi' (see ayat Al Kursi 2:255) with the Alif sitting silently beyond the Arsh. As the Quran says Allah is established over his throne. The prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said when asked of the relationship between the Kursi (footstool) and the Arsh (throne) took a ring from his finger and cast it on the ground, whereupon he said if you wish to consider the throne and the footstool then the ring is the footstool, and the edge of the desert the throne.

	Nehustan		—[[User:Nehustan\|Nehustan]]

Nehustan at 18:11, 11 July 2005

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	I'm aware that Al Ahad is one of the beautiful names with the meaning "he is one" or "one god", but im not sure about Alla(h) means "no god", there is no doubt that Al means god and Lah means nothing, but there is a difference in AL LA and LA AL, i interpret AL LA as "one god, nothing else" and LA AL as "no god", anyway, thats my opinion, anyone have any thoughts on this? Would it not be strange from an exoteric viewpoint to do zikr to "no god" ?		I'm aware that Al Ahad is one of the beautiful names with the meaning "he is one" or "one god", but im not sure about Alla(h) means "no god", there is no doubt that Al means god and Lah means nothing, but there is a difference in AL LA and LA AL, i interpret AL LA as "one god, nothing else" and LA AL as "no god", anyway, thats my opinion, anyone have any thoughts on this? Would it not be strange from an exoteric viewpoint to do zikr to "no god" ?
	—[[User:Fr. Zabed\|Fr. Zabed]]		—[[User:Fr. Zabed\|Fr. Zabed]]

			I think you will find that the shahadah or declaration in the unity (Tawheed) starts 'La Illaha - There is no God', followed by an affirmation of the infinite and absolute, Al Wahid, the unique, 'Il Allah - but (lit.)The God'. It is often said that the name Allah (which is also considered by the deen to be the 'proper' name of God when viewed in Arabic proceeds from the Alif (1) which is sounded by its vowels, descending from Ain Soph Aur/Al Nur if you will down through the double Lam (30x2) down to the Ha (5), which could be said to encompass the 'kursi' (see ayat Al Kursi 2:255) with the Alif sitting silently beyond the Arsh. As the Quran says Allah is established over his throne. The prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said when asked of the relationship between the Kursi (footstool) and the Arsh (throne) took a ring from his finger and cast it on the ground, whereupon he said if you wish to consider the throne and the footstool then the ring is the footstool, and the edge of the desert the throne.

			Nehustan

Fr. Zabed at 05:24, 22 September 2004

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	(both LA AL and AL LA is both called no god in the text)		(both LA AL and AL LA is both called no god in the text)
	I'm aware that Al Ahad is one of the beautiful names with the meaning "he is one" or "one god", but im not sure about Alla(h) means "no god", there is no doubt that Al means god and Lah means nothing, but there is a difference in AL LA and LA AL, i interpret AL LA as "one god, nothing else" and LA AL as "no god", anyway, thats my opinion, anyone have any thoughts on this? Would it not be strange from an exoteric viewpoint to do zikr to "no god" ?		I'm aware that Al Ahad is one of the beautiful names with the meaning "he is one" or "one god", but im not sure about Alla(h) means "no god", there is no doubt that Al means god and Lah means nothing, but there is a difference in AL LA and LA AL, i interpret AL LA as "one god, nothing else" and LA AL as "no god", anyway, thats my opinion, anyone have any thoughts on this? Would it not be strange from an exoteric viewpoint to do zikr to "no god" ?
			—[[User:Fr. Zabed\|Fr. Zabed]]

Fr. Zabed at 05:23, 22 September 2004

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	The only change I really made was to remove a self-reference. We want to avoid the first person and stick with encyclopedic language (i.e. a neutral POV). —[[User:Ash\|Ash]]		The only change I really made was to remove a self-reference. We want to avoid the first person and stick with encyclopedic language (i.e. a neutral POV). —[[User:Ash\|Ash]]


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			(both LA AL and AL LA is both called no god in the text)
			I'm aware that Al Ahad is one of the beautiful names with the meaning "he is one" or "one god", but im not sure about Alla(h) means "no god", there is no doubt that Al means god and Lah means nothing, but there is a difference in AL LA and LA AL, i interpret AL LA as "one god, nothing else" and LA AL as "no god", anyway, thats my opinion, anyone have any thoughts on this? Would it not be strange from an exoteric viewpoint to do zikr to "no god" ?

Ash at 04:08, 22 September 2004

2004-09-22T04:08:53Z

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The only change I really made was to remove a self-reference. We want to avoid the first person and stick with encyclopedic language (i.e. a neutral POV). —[[User:Ash|Ash]]