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		<title>Ash: explanation of edit</title>
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		<updated>2005-01-23T23:36:56Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;explanation of edit&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 23:36, 23 January 2005&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l3&quot;&gt;Line 3:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Also, it is a bit odd to oppose &amp;quot;kteis&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;phallus,&amp;quot; since the former is Greek and the latter Latin. Although Crowley used the term &amp;#039;&amp;#039;kteis&amp;#039;&amp;#039; on occasion, it was more typical for him (following in the footsteps of the phallicists of earlier centuries) to use the term &amp;#039;&amp;#039;yoni&amp;#039;&amp;#039;--even when the complement is &amp;#039;&amp;#039;phallus&amp;#039;&amp;#039; rather than &amp;#039;&amp;#039;lingam&amp;#039;&amp;#039;. Also, &amp;#039;&amp;#039;kteis&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is a derogative term in Greek, on the order of &amp;quot;cunt.&amp;quot; (It literally means &amp;quot;comb.&amp;quot;) The best Greek translation for &amp;#039;&amp;#039;yoni&amp;#039;&amp;#039; would be &amp;#039;&amp;#039;kolpos&amp;#039;&amp;#039;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Also, it is a bit odd to oppose &amp;quot;kteis&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;phallus,&amp;quot; since the former is Greek and the latter Latin. Although Crowley used the term &amp;#039;&amp;#039;kteis&amp;#039;&amp;#039; on occasion, it was more typical for him (following in the footsteps of the phallicists of earlier centuries) to use the term &amp;#039;&amp;#039;yoni&amp;#039;&amp;#039;--even when the complement is &amp;#039;&amp;#039;phallus&amp;#039;&amp;#039; rather than &amp;#039;&amp;#039;lingam&amp;#039;&amp;#039;. Also, &amp;#039;&amp;#039;kteis&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is a derogative term in Greek, on the order of &amp;quot;cunt.&amp;quot; (It literally means &amp;quot;comb.&amp;quot;) The best Greek translation for &amp;#039;&amp;#039;yoni&amp;#039;&amp;#039; would be &amp;#039;&amp;#039;kolpos&amp;#039;&amp;#039;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;--[[User:Paradoxosalpha|Paradoxosalpha]] 00:50, 21 Jan 2005 (CST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;--[[User:Paradoxosalpha|Paradoxosalpha]] 00:50, 21 Jan 2005 (CST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;----&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Here is Vitrious&#039; original article:&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&#039;&#039;The Phallus is the masculine genitalia, and likewise the source and symbol of masculine magical power. It must not, if we are to remain sane, be viewed as the ONLY, but rather indeed must be seen as the basest form and symbol. This must not however, be seen as low or vulgar; it must be brought by us thelemites to the proper level of respect and dutiful worhsip as any other thing of equal merit. It is the Wand, full and static, looking always upwards. It would thus seem that to maintain balance, it would be the male magicians duty to remain passive, and allow the active female principle to charge and weild the wand. The opposing symbol, the Kteis, is empty and changing, looking always downwards. It can be seen that the hole of brahma, which pours forth the dew of the saints from the crown of one&#039;s head, is equalled to the slow and pulsating expulsion of semen from the phallus.&#039;&#039;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;If he or someone else can find a way to include any of this material in an encyclopedic format, please do so.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;I do not want to insult him or anything. There is nothing inherently wrong with what he wrote...it&#039;s just not encyclopedic. For a review of what I mean, see [[Thelemapedia:Article Basics]] and [[Thelemapedia:Tutorial_%28Content%29#Writing style|Thelemapedia Content]].&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;—[[User:Ash|Fr. Ash]] 17:36, 23 Jan 2005 (CST)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Paradoxosalpha at 06:50, 21 January 2005</title>
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		<updated>2005-01-21T06:50:32Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;This article seems a little preachy and pendantic as it stands: &amp;quot;it must be brought by us thelemites&amp;quot;? &lt;br /&gt;
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Also, it is a bit odd to oppose &amp;quot;kteis&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;phallus,&amp;quot; since the former is Greek and the latter Latin. Although Crowley used the term &amp;#039;&amp;#039;kteis&amp;#039;&amp;#039; on occasion, it was more typical for him (following in the footsteps of the phallicists of earlier centuries) to use the term &amp;#039;&amp;#039;yoni&amp;#039;&amp;#039;--even when the complement is &amp;#039;&amp;#039;phallus&amp;#039;&amp;#039; rather than &amp;#039;&amp;#039;lingam&amp;#039;&amp;#039;. Also, &amp;#039;&amp;#039;kteis&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is a derogative term in Greek, on the order of &amp;quot;cunt.&amp;quot; (It literally means &amp;quot;comb.&amp;quot;) The best Greek translation for &amp;#039;&amp;#039;yoni&amp;#039;&amp;#039; would be &amp;#039;&amp;#039;kolpos&amp;#039;&amp;#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Paradoxosalpha|Paradoxosalpha]] 00:50, 21 Jan 2005 (CST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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